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Birmingham had a great tradition of engineering, firearms and the motor industry. I think those things that made it the second city have declined massively so Manchester could well be seen as more vibrant.Manchester is the second city these days.
The two lasses who used to work inDolland and Aitchson on high St west in the 90s were canny anarll mind. I reckon the blond one was after me.There used to be an amazing blonde lass with a pair of toppa's, who worked in Tucci when it first opened on the corner, where that coffee shop is now(?); she also worked in Annabelle's I think?? Fookin lush she was... anybody know who she was??
Sure I saw her behind the bar in Establishment a couple of years back anarl.... LOL, not that I am a stalker or owt...
Oh, and for the record, I feel good now we got FB back!!!
Was there a vote?
we need a seafront canal.Aye, I like shit like that. Sorry if you don't and it offends you.
I also like Sunderland and our seafront. Yes I'm impressed by a seafront.
After years of decline and decay and general pessimism, is it too optimistic to suggest things are on the up ?
The city centre looks great with the Keel Square development, Bridges extension including Van Mildert to rival Aphrodite [who says we dont have designer gear in Sunderland}, total revamp of Holmeside, new hotel about to open next to ex IR building, and of course increased employment for our lads and lasses [still along way to go tho]. The ex Vaux site remains a bug bear, but things could start moving there reasonably soon. At least a handy new car park has been temporarily created and that huge unsightly mound removed.
The seafront looks brilliant, and once the new restaurant is finally open and the houses over the road are done it will be something to be even more proud of - newcastle has the quayside, but I wouldnt swap the seafront for that in a million years.
The area around the ground is starting to develop. Not only do we have one of the few Olympic size swimming pools in Europe never mind the UK, but we have a new hotel due to open reasonably soon which will encourage opposing fans to stay over and spend their money in the city and spread the good word of Sunderland's revival.
And now dare I say it, the football club.The first two games were very poor BUT, the performance v Swansea was decent and the away performance at Villa was encouraging. NOW since the Villa game, we have Borini back, plus a decent looking fullback, whilst the new Swede's second half showing at Villa showed he could well be the midfield answer we've been looking for.
We have a great {word is often misused} manager in Dick Advocaat, a good chairman, a fantastic stadium and facilities at the AOL, a superb, well regarded and respected Foundation and of course, tremendous support.
Have things ever looked as encouraging as this on all fronts ????
The doom mongers, professional pessimists and ne'r do wells will no doubt shoot me down, but I feel encouraged and optimistic about both the city's and the clubs future, HTL, HTC and FTBM
I give you Luton.
There is a least two who maybe on your case very quickly imo, but don't fret about it as they are a double act, so it's not double agony, one does the talking and his assistant just hovers in the background on his shoulder.
What do you expect? After all it is owned by Mike Ashley's mob!!The new van milderts f***ing shite. Bring eleven back
My daughter lives in Luton, the centre is a mess but there's plenty of nice parts too. Oh and it has an airport and an press train 30 mins into London.worst place in uk I have ever been to FACT - in fact, I'd rather live in NEW DELHI which is the worst foreign city Ive ever been to despite the Fort etc.
Spot on about sending money in their own city. I've been saying this for a well now. Improve the footfall and this will invite investors.Birmingham city centre is ok but is a massive building site at the minute. Its better than Stoke or Wolverhampton but Sunderlands seafront is stunning, and I wouldnt swap it for any of those places.
My sisters friends from Lancashire visited Seaburn with the Caravan Club a couple of weeks ago. First ever visit to the city and they were hugely impressed.
If more of the citys residents stopped moaning about the place and spent some money here it would be even better.
Wasn't the time of the 15 point season was it?!There was an excellent piece written by a Doctor from Pallion (also club Doctor at Hartlepool I think) a few years back, linking results on the football pitch to the general health and happiness of the city residents.
After years of decline and decay and general pessimism, is it too optimistic to suggest things are on the up ?
The city centre looks great with the Keel Square development, Bridges extension including Van Mildert to rival Aphrodite [who says we dont have designer gear in Sunderland}, total revamp of Holmeside, new hotel about to open next to ex IR building, and of course increased employment for our lads and lasses [still along way to go tho]. The ex Vaux site remains a bug bear, but things could start moving there reasonably soon. At least a handy new car park has been temporarily created and that huge unsightly mound removed.
The seafront looks brilliant, and once the new restaurant is finally open and the houses over the road are done it will be something to be even more proud of - newcastle has the quayside, but I wouldnt swap the seafront for that in a million years.
The area around the ground is starting to develop. Not only do we have one of the few Olympic size swimming pools in Europe never mind the UK, but we have a new hotel due to open reasonably soon which will encourage opposing fans to stay over and spend their money in the city and spread the good word of Sunderland's revival.
And now dare I say it, the football club.The first two games were very poor BUT, the performance v Swansea was decent and the away performance at Villa was encouraging. NOW since the Villa game, we have Borini back, plus a decent looking fullback, whilst the new Swede's second half showing at Villa showed he could well be the midfield answer we've been looking for.
We have a great {word is often misused} manager in Dick Advocaat, a good chairman, a fantastic stadium and facilities at the AOL, a superb, well regarded and respected Foundation and of course, tremendous support.
Have things ever looked as encouraging as this on all fronts ????
The doom mongers, professional pessimists and ne'r do wells will no doubt shoot me down, but I feel encouraged and optimistic about both the city's and the clubs future, HTL, HTC and FTBM
The team needs to go on a run for the feel good factor to be back.
I think they've got parts of Birmingham locked down but it's a big city and i'm sure others hold their own spots. My mate mentioned the Johnson's too, least i think that's what they were called.
Birmingham's always been a violent place. You can tell when things that would be major stories in some places barely make the news in Birmingham.
There was another bunch from Wolverhampton who used to stop over up here on their way to Aberdeen of all places. They had that bit of business locked down for years.
There were some figures released by them up the road when Keegan was in charge that when they won at home as opposed to getting beat at home, out of hrs Drs appointments dropped by 75%.The socioeconomic effects on a team by its surrounding area is well documented, but the other way around is more or less taken for granted..