Is feminism sexist?

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Cockney Mackem said:
So, to summarise.

Feminism as a subset of the overall campaign for equality and an end to discrimination is good.

The strawman version of Feminism that people have invented at the instruction of the little squirrels at the controls inside their heads is bad.

Lordy is the most oppressed person in the history of the world and really needs a hug.
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Ohh FFS man, don't mention squirrels!!

Keith S30S said:
Is this equality whilst retaining the advantages women already receive in the work place? ;)
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I'd like to know what advantages these are, so I can er, take advantage of them.

And if you say "wearing skirts" you can get to feck.
 
HellsBells said:
Ohh FFS man, don't mention squirrels!!


I'd like to know what advantages these are, so I can er, take advantage of them.

And if you say "wearing skirts" you can get to feck.
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Having a day or 2 off when you fancy due to 'women troubles' ;)

In my last role (factory) I had to deal with about a couple of dozen women and a dozen blokes. The blokes just got on with things 99% of the time. Half a dozen of the women were a nightmare. They never spoke to each other for weeks on end over trivial shit and would report each other out of pure spite. It effected there work but they the were the first to expect overtime! Unreal but not the norm I hope.
 
not spavin said:
It's a video that purports to show constant harassment, but shows lots of instances that aren't harassment.

That allows people to conclude that women don't suffer harassment.

If it was conducted over 30 hours, it'd feature nothing but harassment. That's make a more bullet-proof argument.

However, the arguments made by pop-feminism's loudest voices are rarely bullet-proof. I think that's sad, because the general aims of feminism should be inarguable. It's a discussion that's currently being led by the least able. These people are mainly concerned with 'preaching to the choir'. Shouldn't they be attempting to engage more with those opposed to their aims?

Emma Watson's speech at the UN was a brilliant example of exactly that. It was impossible to argue with the point she was making, unless you detest women. Meanwhile, the Guardian publish several articles per week by people like Jessica Valenti who make absolutely infantile arguments that seem designed just to irritate people. Feminism is being derailed by clickbait.
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I'd like to know what instances weren't harassment. It allows idiots and those that have already made their minds up to conclude that women don't suffer harassment. It's not much of an argument against highlighting harassment is it?

Postscript: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ent-receives-rape-threats-online-9824803.html
 
Keith S30S said:
Having a day or 2 off when you fancy due to 'women troubles' ;)

In my last role (factory) I had to deal with about a couple of dozen women and a dozen blokes. The blokes just got on with things 99% of the time. Half a dozen of the women were a nightmare. They never spoke to each other for weeks on end over trivial shit and would report each other out of pure spite. It effected there work but they the were the first to expect overtime! Unreal but not the norm I hope.
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I can state I've never taken any time off for "women troubles". Unless you count colds which last time I checked weren't gender specific. ;)

None of my teams have ever asked
For time off for women troubles either. Perhaps for ended specific medical issues, such as a hysterectomy, but I wouldn't call that an "advantage". But I've also had a guy off for something unmentionable with his bollocks, which I didn't pry too much into.
 
HellsBells said:
I can state I've never taken any time off for "women troubles". Unless you count colds which last time I checked weren't gender specific. ;)

None of my teams have ever asked
For time off for women troubles either. Perhaps for ended specific medical issues, such as a hysterectomy, but I wouldn't call that an "advantage". But I've also had a guy off for something unmentionable with his bollocks, which I didn't pry too much into.
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Sounds like a load of balls to me, HB. You've cocked up giving him time off for that.
 
LeicesterMackem said:
I'd like to know what instances weren't harassment. It allows idiots and those that have already made their minds up to conclude that women don't suffer harassment. It's not much of an argument against highlighting harassment is it?

Postscript: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ent-receives-rape-threats-online-9824803.html
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The "good mornings" might've been beggars or street sellers.

Try walking around any city and you will not be left alone.

That doesn't excuse what this woman experiences, but it does muddy the argument the video tries to make.
 
HellsBells said:
I can state I've never taken any time off for "women troubles". Unless you count colds which last time I checked weren't gender specific. ;)

None of my teams have ever asked
For time off for women troubles either. Perhaps for ended specific medical issues, such as a hysterectomy, but I wouldn't call that an "advantage". But I've also had a guy off for something unmentionable with his bollocks, which I didn't pry too much into.
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Thoughts with his family if it was testicular torsion.
 
Keith S30S said:
Offended at a throw away, jokey comment on a message board? You said they were equal and you couldn't decide but you did in favour of the woman, I find that midly amusing :)

Personally I think Dave employed the women to secure votes. Whether they were the best people for the job was secondary. It's just the way it is.
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I didn't say they were equal. I said they were both excellent. :)
 
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