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http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-exercise-depression-20140925-story.html

New research out yesterday proving that exercise reduces depression. All to do with the production of a chemical called PGC-1a1. The result: mental wellness in the face of disadvantage, social setbacks and general adversity.

I also found this...

file:///C:/Users/Daniel/Downloads/Ruas%20et%20al%202012.pdf

This highlights that all type of exercise produce the chemical (resistance and endurance) but resistance, especiailly leg resistance exercise enables the most production of the chemical.

Squats!!
What helped me the most in getting my head straight from the negative thoughts, was exercise. I would go for a a 6 mile run down the Tyne when I was living in Hebburn, and I started going for a swim and gym etc. I stopped drinking for a while as well because it made me feel down, but still went out with mates to socialise and I started eating a better diet too. It does take a while to see any progress, but you will get there mate, it's just patient game.

I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.
 
I still can't tell the difference between chrisashley and that other Chris who also moans about being an ugly Billy no mates.

Are you the same person, or else can you give us a clue as to which is which?
 
I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.

Nobody will laugh at you like, I find you gain more respect from people for turning up. I ended up meeting a few lads through going to the Gym and they invited me out in nights out etc as a result. The hardest part is turning up. I started with jogging and introduced interval training and found I became a lot fitter as a result and ended up losing an extra stone.
 
I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.
Nobody will laugh at you mate
 
I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.

You could buy a few York weights from argos, powerhouse/workout world etc and just do it at home initially. Could even buy a cheap bench from Argos - not too expensive, fold up and will do the job initially. A few park runs etc, then when you get a bit more confident/experienced in lifting/running etc join a gym?
 
I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.

The massive insecurities will start to go when youve given yourself something to be confident about. That will happen when you set yourself a target and show yourself you can acheive it. Snowball effect from then on. Get some weights, do compound exercises twice a week with squats, chest presses etc (look it up on the net) and then wait. Two hours of your time a week. Can you do that?
 
I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.

What about hiking? Some walks you hardly see anybody all day.

Also nowt to stop you doing weights, exercise bike etc at home till you build up the body confidence to join a gym.

Kids say mean shit, you have to challenge the negative thoughts with evidence.
 
Anyone mind sharing their experience of citalopram 20mg please, especially side effects or how it affects you when its stopped.

gp wants me to start it, but scares the shit out of me reading some of the reported side effects etc.
 
Anyone mind sharing their experience of citalopram 20mg please, especially side effects or how it affects you when its stopped.

gp wants me to start it, but scares the shit out of me reading some of the reported side effects etc.


Try to keep away from medication if you can would be my advice, if you feel you can't then it can be a bit hit and miss finding what suits you.
I've seen some worrying sights due to that type of medication not agreeing with people.
 
Try to keep away from medication if you can would be my advice, if you feel you can't then it can be a bit hit and miss finding what suits you.
I've seen some worrying sights due to that type of medication not agreeing with people.

Cheers, my gut feeling is not to take them tbh unless the other things don't work. Just wanted opinions either way
 
I want to join a gym or do something excercise wise but too scared of others laughing, I'm 'skinnyfat' at the moment so not gonna be able to lift heavy stuff and no doubt look even more ridiculous than i already do!

I think i need to take all the mirrors down the in the house, i can look in them notice my bad points and that sends me down to thinking about all the negative things said in the past that makes me think, yeah must be that bad! Never ending for me, I think i'm a lost cause, even if I miraculously get a lass the massive insecurities aren't gonna go anywhere.

I've only just started reading from this last page so sorry if this post is way off topic, why not do some home work out stuff?

I do a Billy Blanks Tae Bo work out a couple of times a week and the difference has been amazing.
 
Cheers, my gut feeling is not to take them tbh unless the other things don't work. Just wanted opinions either way

the thing about side effects is they will vary hugely depending on the person. the usual side effects of the SSRI group for men are the sexual ones, but this can even be a bonus sometimes if you dont mind longer sex sessions.
 
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Anyone mind sharing their experience of citalopram 20mg please, especially side effects or how it affects you when its stopped.

gp wants me to start it, but scares the shit out of me reading some of the reported side effects etc.

Can't say anything about citalopram specifically because I've never had it, but I was given medication in the summer and I stopped it after 3 weeks because I felt like a different person. I was on Sertraline 50mg and I was getting headaches, feeling sick, feeling generally numb and distant and I didn't have any sexual drive either. I decided that I didn't want to be a person who would rely on medication and started reading more self help stuff myself. Felt so much better within 3 days of coming off them.
 
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Can't say anything about citalopram specifically because I've never had it, but I was given medication in the summer and I stopped it after 3 weeks because I felt like a different person. I was on Sertraline 50mg and I was getting headaches, feeling sick, feeling generally numb and distant and I didn't have any sexual drive either. I decided that I didn't want to be a person who would rely on medication and started reading more self help stuff myself. Felt so much better within 3 days of coming off them.

I started a thread on here many years back about sertraline. That was f***ing horrendous that stuff. The month I was in it was worse than the years of torment beofre hand. I'll never ever forget the constant feeling of gut wrenching dread.

Next time around I was on fluoxetine and it was the complete opposite.

alcohol is a depressant mind

In the end it was the only thing that pulled me through. Nearly finished me off as well mind.
 
Cheers, my gut feeling is not to take them tbh unless the other things don't work. Just wanted opinions either way

I went to see the GP years ago, not for depression but for an irregular heartbeat, after he got my blood tests back he wanted to put me on some medication, when I asked how long for he said for the rest of my life. :eek:

I had to go and see a consultant a week later and he couldn't believe that he'd even suggested putting me on them as I didn't fit into any categories of those who were on them.

Sadly I died two weeks later. :lol:
 
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